The EXTREME divisiveness of the NC Family Courts
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Roughly half of custodial mothers today have male children who will one day be pushed to the margins of their kids lives if they experience a divorce and have children. Where do you think these non-custodial grandmothers (who will also be marginalized as well) will stand then? With Equally Shared Parenting?
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NC Fathers frequently gets contact from custodial families complaining about our website, and all too often they tell us that the NC Family Courts are NOT divisive and there is equal treatment of both parents and extended families.
While this may be an exercise in futility, here are the MANY issues outlining what we believe is EXTREME divisiveness that alienates children from non-custodial fathers, paternal grandmothers, step-mothers, paternal aunts and uncles, and other family members who EQUALLY get hurt in this division.
It is important to point out that it is usually Legislators and Judges in the Democrat Party of NC Who Are Historically Pro Social Services and Women That Have Created The Climate That is Alienating Non-Custodial Fathers, Paternal Grandmothers, Step-Mothers, Paternal Aunts and Uncles, and Other Females in Non-Custodial Families From Their Children.
NC Family Courts
- Despite NO presumption for who gets custody of a child, mothers continue to get custody 85% of the time according to the Administrative Offices of the NC Courts. Does 85% sound like presumption to you?
- When custodial parents get into financial difficulty, they have access to extensive federal and state housing, educational, medical, job, and financial services. Additionally, filing for IRS earned income credits. When non-custodial parents get into financial hardship, they go to jail.
- Despite many Judges and other agencies screaming about absent fathers, the NC Family Courts still give the majority of fathers 4-5 days a MONTH visitation.
- Despite many Judges and other agencies screaming about absent fathers, the NC Family Courts routinely allow custodial mothers to move children hundreds and even thousands of miles away from non-custodial families.
- In child support enforcement matters, every time there is an issue, the federal office of child support enforcement provides a FREE lawyer for the custodial parent. Non-custodial parents have to secure private attorneys at $5000-$7000 PER INCIDENT.
- Providing that a child is under three years of age, a DIVORCED custodial mother can QUIT work and and go on social services assistance. To help replenish these funds, NC child support enforcement petitions for double and even triple the amount of child support guidelines so that custodial mothers can stay at home with children. NC Father contends that this may work with MARRIED parents, it is bizarre for divorced parents.
- Judges and Legislators in NC routinely say that NO parent is forced to pay money to see their children. Non-Custodial Fathers, Paternal Grandmothers, Step-Mothers, and Paternal Aunts and Uncles ALL over NC understand that it is ROUTINE for custodial parents to keep children from their Fathers UNTIL he is forced to spend $5000 with an Attorney to get minimal visitation in the Courts.
- Paternal Fraud. We have followed several cases where women named a father after having a child, and the fathers did not question it because they were happy. In these cases, SEVERAL YEARS passed and the fathers filed for custody or to modify for greater visitation and the mothers then said the fathers were not the kids fathers. In all cases, it turned out they were right, and destroyed the non-custodial family and most likely the kids. Judges and Legislators REFUSE to prosecute mothers for this fraud.
- There should never be a pay wall between kids and parents. Typically after a separation a mother will leave with the children and not allow any contact between Fathers and Children. For people who do not have $7,000+ dollars to hire an attorney, they never see their kids again.
NC Child Support Enforcement
Thought child support enforcement was ONLY about financial assistance to children? WRONG!
- According to Section 458 of the Social Security Act Title IV Part D which is entitled “INCENTIVE payments to States”, the FEDERAL government gives ALL US States TWO dollars for EVERY ONE dollar collected in child support that can then be used to replenish low income assistance programs at social services. This means that for every non-custodial parent paying $400 dollars a month to child support enforcement, the federal government is giving the State of NC back $800 to use for OTHER PEOPLES low income assistance. Sounds like Revenue huh? More on this HERE. So where does INCENTIVE fit in? Does this have anything to do with low visitation awards from politically motivated Judges so that child support payments can be maximized, and thus federal funding for social services lobbyist who have enormous power over NC Judicial elections?
- Purposeful Stigmatization and Ostracism by the Federal Government on NC Non-Custodial Families
- Here is a government contractor building a high tech software program for NC child support enforcement? Any idea how much it cost to research, develop, train, implement, and run quality control on this large of a software program? We suspect easily many millions. Since they are seeking Title IV-D money, this means that non-custodial families child support payments is the primary funding for this. More aggressive child support enforcement measures and less visitation awards anyone?
How Do You Feel Knowing That Democratic Lawmakers and Judges in NC have devised a system that helps Welfare and Low Income Assistance Recipients Have An Easier Time Enjoying And Raising Their Kids While You Are Alienated From Yours And Treated Like a Second Class Visitor Family Who Only Deserves 4 Days Visitation With Their Kids? Angry knowing that your Child Support Efforts Are Making This Happen?
Why are NC non-custodial families paying for low income assistance for OTHER PEOPLE, and putting food on plates of software developers? Does this open the door for major bias and abuse from social services since they NEED us for funding?
Are non-custodial fathers akin to International drug dealers and organized crime bosses? Be sure that there are FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT agencies watching out for these individuals (DEA & FBI). Why are non-custodial men put into a FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM simply for not being ALLOWED to have equal custody? Is this a stigmatization technique?
Why do we see the term “Deadbeat Dad” used so frequently of NC Sheriff’s, Judges, and State Websites? Why are they so quick to use this highly politically correct and derogatory term for fathers, but you WILL NEVER see the “N Word”, “Medicaid Mom”, or “Spick” on ANY elected officials website or State sanctioned website? We figured by age… oh say 12 that most people recognize that using derogatory terms for other groups of people is immature and solves nothing.
Domestic Violence
NC Fathers believes that the NC Family Courts are fueling Domestic Violence. When 85% of women get custody, we believe that every non-custodial family member KNEW before court that they were going to be leaving that day as a non-custodial visitor family and that pets in the custodial mother’s home were going to have greater access to our children then we were. As a result, we believe that men endure bad marriages rather than seeing our children leave our lives. Anyone that has been in a bad marriage knows that it is not pleasant, and there is a lot of frustration, anger, resentment, sadness, and depression that results from choosing between living in a bad marriage and continuing a normal relationship with our children. Unfortunately, this setup always leads to a flash point.
According to the “Violence Against Women Act” (VAWA) – Domestic Violence IS defined as slamming a door, yelling and pointing a finger, or shouting loudly. Commit one of these offenses, and you are immediately removed from your home, jailed, and prevented from returning for up to a year. Additionally, you are prevented from contact with your children.
Now, if a woman slams a door, points and finger and screams, or shouts loudly at a man, call the police or go to a magistrate and see what happens.
Be sure that there are MILLIONS of cases in the US where men lose jobs, custody, and their homes for slamming a door because politically motivated Judges DARE NOT cross Domestic Violence lobbyist who have a MAJOR impact on funding of elections.
Are we sure that hopeful custodial mothers do not use this hot button social issue and make FALSE allegations because crafty lawyers told them that if they could recall a time when “he yelled loudly and slammed a door” we can get sole custody and likely unequal distribution of community property”?
ABC News even did a piece on this, if they get it, how come NC Judges don’t get it?
No divisiveness huh? Any questions?








































Do your recognize that 85% of the children that are taken from the family are placed on drugs almost immediately after they are placed in Foster Care situations. This is abuse and neglect of these children of the worst kind of way. That is why “judge Pone” should be removed from office and all of his cases brought up for review.
Yes, Cumberland County is the only county in NC, that refuses to intervention of honesty and truth to prevail in Child Custody cases. Yet they allow social services to falsefy the ability of parents and other family members to keep the children. Especially the grandparent. They would truly lose their funding that they are putting in their pockets just like the child support funds that are supposed to go directly to the child regardless of the circumstances. This money is beening stolen from the children by a makebeleive law that the custodial parents owes the state for filing the support and maintaining said records. There are so many problems with the “CUMBERLAND COUNTY FAMILY COURT. What can I do to help to get rid of this ring of child abusing kidnappers.
This exact thing happened to two of my boyfriends children. They were in our care for six months (after removing them from their mother) with no drugs and were thriving. Three weeks after social services removed the children from us (without cause, admitted in court), they began putting them on drugs so the foster parents could better control them. BETTER CONTROL children. That is what the social worker said. How insane is that. These children had no mental diagnosis while in our care (have therapist papers to show that), yet they go into the system and know they have numerous mental problems. I just dont get any of this.
I paid CS forever and a day to my daughters mother. She would not work. When she did, she quit or got fired. She WILL NOT help me with these kids. So I cut her off to force her to step up to the plate. However, I still take care of the children and I always have. I don’t care where they stay. They come back and forth to me and their mom. Everything they have, I bought and continue to do so. And I mean that literally. I am forced to keep all receipts of EVERYTHING I get my girls. Now she goes to DSS and tries to get them to make me pay. Take this month for instance, I go out and buy my daughters over $700 bucks worth of spring clothes and shoes. Now understand, I send everything back to their moms so they have it there too. To beat it all, she is reporting that I pay her 500 a month when I was paying her much more. That even caused her benefits to go up. They do not care about the FRAUD, however. They only care what the mom CLAIMS. They care nothing of the facts. We are currently battling in court. She uses my daughters as leverage for money each month and uses them to receive state benefits, all while living in a 275K thousand dollar home with her boyfriend. Now please tell me what the hell a person is doing on food stamps living in such a nice home? Our system is so screwed up. This is truly despicable.
The Courts are going to end up taking a year before they set up visitation because their schedule doesn’t have time. I’d pay every penny I could scrap together just to see him once… If the assistance is needed because she can’t maintain a roof, food, or better environment because of her mental disabilities; well I payed into the system plenty, let those who need it more then I have it. Better to the inable than the pockets of overpayed politicians.
Justin welcome aboard. Join us on FB http://www.facebook.com/ncfathers
I am a NC mother that lost her daughter to a father that has the money to buy the best lawyer. I now can only see my daughter supervised once a month and I live 500 miles away. My daughter and I are very close and want to be together but when you get into the courts, you may never get out. I’ve been fighting for 8 years and my daughter is now 14 yrs old. I understand about men getting hurt, but women also lose.
Penny,
A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that because our name is NC Fathers, that we are only about Fathers rights. We are a non-custodial organization that just happens to be started by a group of fathers. Today, we take the side of ALL non-custodial parents, and their extended family. Your succinct statement about lawyers is right on. The lawyer w/ the biggest bag of politics wins, and there is nothing that can be done about it. Join us on facebook http://www.facebook.com/ncfathers
Just came across this sight while researching the Judges on the Ballot for Johnston County. I can tell you that I could write a book about the abuses of the system. Nearly five years ago I went through a really nasty divorce and custody battle with my documented mentally ill ex (borderline personality disorder) and I did finally get 50/50 custody. The Ex-wife kept bringing up fraudulent contempt charges against me and my new wife. Two years ago we had had enough and we told the kids that we were not going to fight in the courts anymore as we were broke both emotionally and financially. They decided to come live with us full time and they have never been happier and my current wife has learned about the bull my ex was doing to the children (no food, power shut off, Taking money that they had earned for her to use , etc..). before this the children were failing in school and truant, now they are excelling A’s and B’s not missing a day of school at all. I Fought DSS regarding her diagnosis and they still did not take it into consideration. Additionally the Ex-wife continued to file bull charges the last one was a 50B and 50C against me and my wife, she eventually dropped them because she could never make it to court. Then she went into hiding and has an ACP (Address Confidentially Program) address. The Children asked her why she is hiding and she told them that she has an unlisted address( Yeah right). The children have made a decision that they do not want any contact with their mother. To cut to the chase the Judges do not consider what the father testifies too and the documentation of the court order Psych exam. Jim Love was our Judge and he will not get my vote that is for dURN sure nor will Faircloth or Bryant. The best Judge I have ever been in front of is Addie Rawls. The system is totally BAIS against MEN.
My ex works, she has her own business that she doesn’t claim the income from and was recently arrested for food stamp fraud because she claimed she and I were separated since 2006 and we separated in 2011. She had a contempt of court charge put on me for a 2000 purge payment even though the kids lived with me up to two weeks before our court date, when she started having them every other weekend. She also had one put on me for not providing her medical insurance, although she has medical insurance, when asked by the hearing officer if she has medical insurance she told the hearing officer “no”. I have her active medical insurance in my hand as I type. Now she was cited by the sheriff’s office for leaving my kids in her vehicle while she tanned for 20 minutes, and I picked up my kids one day and was bathing my 5 year old and discovered a hand print bruise on his back. OCS said my ex did not know how it happened so OCS deemed it as a low risk environment. My ex gets free housing assistance food stamps free medical and 1400 a month from me, why would she want to get a job, she has it made.
Kenny,
Yea funny how the contempt things works huh. If you are in contempt, you go to jail, but if a custodial mother is in contempt she gets a pass. If there was a hand print on your child after you had her, oh boy! But no, not mothers. Join us on facebook http://www.facebook.com/ncfathers or jaoin our mailing list. Be sure to invite non-custodial fathers and families from your community so we can build a massive organization of people to stop this obvious bias.
I took full custody of my kids a year ago and social services is still charging me child support and not trying to get money from her why won’t they stop my child support, I have custody of them its ridiculous Yadkinville NC is backwoods.
Ernest,
We aren’t lawyers, so do not take this as legal advice. Were you given custody by your ex outside court or did a Judge give you custody? Sounds like you need to get CSE to schedule a court date so a Judge can order your payments stopped and order payments on her. If you and your ex did everything outside court there still has to be a order written by a Judge.
I think the fathers do not need to go jail, they need to work for the state if they do not have job. The state ends up paying for the children, and for the father being in jail that just does not sound right to me. Susanne Grover
Susanne, thanks for commenting on our NC Family Courts post. I agree that Fathers should not be going to jail, but I disagree that they should be given jobs just so they can support their children as alienated parents. Fathers should have exactly equal time with their children and no child support being payed. This frees up Mothers to further their education or work (work more) to get off state assistance. Fathers are not put on this earth to pay child support, we are parents, not vehicles for payments. Now with that said, for Fathers and Mothers who REFUSE to be equal parents, see their kids, be involved, and support them directly through equal parentage, then they need to go to prison if they don’t pay child support.
We have Joint Legal Physical Custody and just went through a nasty child support trial here in Wilkes NC and we are getting robbed. THEY ARE EVEN GIVING HER A CREDIT FOR THE NEW CHILD SHE HAS WITH HER NEW HUSBAND. THEY LEFT ME WITH VERY LITTLE TO SUPPORT OUR KIDS THE TWO WEEKS I HAVE THEM EVERY MONTH. ITS PATHETIC HOWBCAN THEY CALL THAT JUSTICE? DEADBEAT DADS GO TO JAIL WHILE DEADBEAT MOMS GET MORE CHILD SUPPORT…THEY MAY CALL IT JUST AND FAIR IN THEIR CORRUPT COURT SYSTEM BUT IN GODS’ EYES IT IS WRONG TO STEAL FROM ONE HOUSEHOLD AND LEAVE IT IN DESPAIR WHILE GIVING TO THE OTHER SO THAT THEY ARE VERY COMFORTABLE. GRRRRRR!
My daughter’s husband left her and moved in with another woman and the woman is expecting in April. They went to court yesterday and he brought his mistress and a lawyer to court with him. She was blindsided because his lawyer requested a paternity test for their two children thereby delaying the start of child support. They have been separated for 8 months but not legally because he refused to sign the papers. He has given them less than one hundred dollars during this timeframe. They were together over 17 years and married for eight. We are so disheartened about this situation. He is truly a piece of work!
Annette, thanks for commenting on our article about the NC Family Courts. In your article, you seem disheartened that some man would leave your daughter to be with someone else, when in fact women leave their husbands every minute of the day to be with other men and usually take the children with them.
As for the paternity test, we have a huge problem in NC with women sleeping with multiple men and just pinning the baby on whoever is most likely and best prepared to take care of the child. We have three Men in our organization now who were married to women and she had a child and they raised the child, supported them, and fell in love with said child and found out in adolescence that the children were not theirs.
I realize you are facing a possible custody battle where you need this possible father to be a piece of work while your daughter being perfect, innocent and sweet in order to win. The problem is that it isn’t always like this. Attempting to single a father out as bad while attempting to make your daughter out to be an angel in order to win a custody matter won’t work here.
I’m going through this same mess now my daughter mother was legally married just recently got a divorce but the baby was born I went to Korea for 12mo and she wasn’t working and I help her out with her bills until she got back to work I have over 5,000 worth of statements where I sent her money our baby is only 9mo so in dec I couldn’t help her pay her rent so I ask her to get it from one of the other fathers next thing I know I get a call from DSS it’s more to the story but it’s said that females can go and take you out of CS just because there mad