NC Fathers Rights

Judge Michael Sabiston, Judge Lee Gavin – Montgomery, Moore, Randolph County NC Court

Judge Michael Sabiston and Judge Lee GavinBy continuing to advocate for a Family Court system that is focused on federal child support enforcement, and one parent winning while the other parent loses, is Judge Michael Sabiston and Judge Lee Gavin of the Montgomery, Moore, and Randolph County NC District Courts also advocating for a system that insures that Moore, Montgomery, and Randolph County NC non-custodial grandmothers, step-mothers, fathers, paternal aunts and uncles, and other family members stay marginalized so that many special interest groups can gain money, power, and votes? After reviewing our GOAL, we ask that you get FIRED UP as a voter and join our MAILING LIST. Does Judge Michael Sabiston and Judge Lee Gavin realize that the current system is generating revenue for Welfare and Low Income Assistance programs on the back of Moore, Montgomery, and Randolph County NC non-custodial family and their inability to get equal parentage and access to their children? Other questions we have for Judge Michael Sabiston and Judge Lee Gavin include our concern that low visitation awards and custodial mothers being allowed to move kids hundreds of miles away from non-custodial families is directly related to increased child support payment (and social services funding). As a non-custodial family member in Montgomery, Moore, and Randolph County NC, we ask that you routinely share this article on Judge Michael Sabiston, Judge Lee Gavin, and the Montgomery, Moore, and Randolph County NC Family Courts with other families on Facebook and Twitter.

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Judge Michael Sabiston retired in 2012 and Governor Bev Purdue appointed William “Bill” Heafner as Judge in Randolph, Montgomery, and Moore County.

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Judge Michael Sabiston, Judge Lee Gavin - Montgomery, Moore, and Randolph County NC District and Family Court

By clicking on the RED and BLUE graphic below, neither Judge Lee Gavin and Judge Michael Sabiston should NOT be shocked to learn that Montgomery, Moore, and Randolph County non-custodial families are angry about being put into a system that uses non-custodial families as a tool to make sure Welfare recipients (usually a custodial mothers) have an easier time financially supporting their children. Are you happy knowing that you, the non-custodial grandmother or father, are denied equal parentage and access to your kids, so that others can benefit?

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Judge Michael Sabiston, Judge Lee Gavin, and the Montgomery, Moore, and Randolph County NC Family Courts

Judge Michael Sabiston and Judge Lee Gavin are well aware that non-custodial fathers are going to jail daily in Montgomery, Moore, and Randolph County for inability to pay child support in tough financial times. Additionally, both Judge Sabiston and Judge Gavin are well aware that when custodial mothers get into financial trouble, there is extensive tax incentives, social services housing, educational, financial, medical, and other programs ready to maintain the mother/child relationship. Does Judge Sabiston and Judge Gavin not recognize the importance of the father/child relationship, or the relationship of children and their paternal grandmothers, step-mothers, paternal aunts, and other siblings?

Judge Michael Sabiston and Judge Lee Gavin are very well aware that custodial mothers get by law FREE federal child support enforcement attorneys to work for them, while non-custodial families go bankrupt over $5000 retainers each time enforcement wants more money.

Judge Lee Gavin and Judge Michael Sabsiton are well aware that the money spent by parents in retainer fees for 18 years in a system that rewards parental fighting is more than double the amount of reported child support arrears owed in NC.

When are Moore, Montgomery, and Randolph County NC non-custodial fathers, step-mothers, paternal grandmothers, paternal aunts and uncles, other family members, and friends of these families going to recognize their overwhelming voter base and send Judge Michael Sabsiton, Judge Lee Gavin, other Judges in the Montgomery, Moore, and Randolph County NC courts, and their political affiliations the message that we are not second class visitor families who only deserve 4 days a month visitation and who has to pay a big government federal agency money to access their kids?

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March 8, 2012 - Posted by | Uncategorized | , ,

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  1. You have to be kidding me with this lame attempt at an attack on these two Judges. I work with these guys every day and know them to be fine, reasonable, every-day kind of people. Let me guess, you lost custody to their mother and now are griping about paying child support so you create this trumped up attack website to get back at the two judges who probably heard your case. These two local judges had nothing to do with the creation of a state-wide family court program. They merely hear cases in that court as part of their rotation and make the best decision they can given the facts and the best interest of the child. When families break up, decisions have to be made. You say “Custodial mothers get into financial trouble, there is extensive tax incentives, social services housing, educational, financial, medical, and other programs ready to maintain the mother/child relationship”. Possibly you should look into the many women who have to go on welfare because the guy pays no child support at all and they cant care for their kids after he leaves. P.S., I know a lot of single fathers who have won custody of their kids and the system works both ways.

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    Comment by Joedidit | March 18, 2012 | Reply

    • Hi Joe,
      Yea, you got us. We did this because either of these Judges gave custody to our kids mother. But, then can you explain the other 47 Judges we have listed on this website?

      Joe we trumped up nothing. The AOC tells us 85% of mom gets custody, 85% of anything in a “no presumption” state is bias and discrimination. Child Support Enforcement funds Social Services, thus the State needs us alienated from our Kids, etc….

      And Joe, of the 4,895 people on our Mailing List your only the 7th person to complain about this site. We must be doing something right πŸ™‚

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      Comment by ncfathers | March 18, 2012 | Reply

  2. Never said your complaints were trumped up, and for sure not complaining about the existence of the site. I was reading it when I saw the comments about the judges wasn’t I? I know a lot of single fathers that are great parents. For sure you have a legitimate issue with the disproportion of custody decisions unfairly going to the mother, and it is a true tragedy when children are separated from their grandparents and extended family. In my mind it borders on child abuse. My issue was that you singled out these two judges when in reality they have absolutely nothing to do with the structure and venue of the hearings where these decisions are made. Even if these two judges quit tomorrow, whoever takes their place will still be having the same hearings, in the same court, and bound by the same rules. The reality is that both these judges are nice guys and very very competent judges, To blame them for the system is unfair. It also seemed like you were complaining both about the decision and the very existence of child support. Surely a child deserves to be supported by his parents, don’t you think? If not you, who? Me?. More attention might need to be focused on just what the custodial parent does with the money and on how she (or he) spends it for the benefit of the kid, not on the actual payment of the money. As far as Family Court even being in existence, it may be a moot point because they survived budget cuts this year, but may be on the chopping block for next year, as has happened in some areas. But be clear, Family Court is just the way the cases are organized and hearings scheduled. Custody hearings always have, and always will, be conducted. I feel fathers can do themselves a big favor by doing diligent research to present to the judge as to what is actually in the best interest of the child(ren). This may include presenting facts to the court about the mothers activities, friends, boyfriends, work ethic, drug usage, work history, criminal record and other data that can at least give the judge a balanced perspective. You can’t leave it to your attorney to do this.

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    Comment by joedidit | March 18, 2012 | Reply

    • joedidit,
      Thanks for not calling us LAME this time πŸ™‚ I just re-read our blog on Judge Sabiston and Judge Gavin to make sure we did not accuse both of these Judges for the problems in the NC Family Courts. If you read the post again, nowhere in the article does it say that either Judge is to blame for anything, incompetent, or otherwise. We simply ask questions.

      Also, we have a similar post for every single Judge in NC.

      The purpose of this website is NOT to get Judges to understand our side of this, reform, or make changes and I will explain why in a minute. The goal of this website to to place blogs we think non-custodial families will search before and after a hearing, and learn more about why we think they left in the state they did. Our goal is to blog about every Judge, Sheriff, NC Representative/Senator, Social Services Agency, etc… not to get them to change, but to reach the people who can force the changes.

      Now I will respond to many of your other statements in your comments. My response will be bolded and directly under your statement:

      “It also seemed like you were complaining both about the decision and the very existence of child support”

      WE do not disagree with supporting children. Every child needs to be supported by both parents. Our concern is that since one dollar in Revenue comes back to the State of NC via the federal government for every one dollar collected, and is used to replenish social services programs, it is an incentive to keep one parent alienated so that they are paying child support (and thus funding a vital program of the State). If mom and dad had equal parentage and access, then dads would have more overnights and thus pay less child support into the system. This would mean less one dollars collected, and therefore less one dollars coming back to the State of NC social services agencies.

      “I feel fathers can do themselves a big favor by doing diligent research to present to the judge as to what is actually in the best interest of the child(ren). This may include presenting facts to the court about the mothers activities, friends, boyfriends, work ethic, drug usage, work history, criminal record and other data that can at least give the judge a balanced perspective”

      Forgive me if I am wrong, but it seems you have never been a father in the Family Courts. Because Judges have SO much discretion in the family courts, many times when you do present this stuff, bizarre discretionary decisions are made.

      The problem is this. There are way to many special interest groups that derive money, power, and votes off the family courts. Let take a look at just a few:

      1) Social Services is COMPLETELY in need of Fathers who do not have as many overnights as possible, so they pay increased child support. Remember, for every father that pays $350 per month in support, the government gives back $350 for social services to use at their discretion.

      2) If Judges were to say to two parents: OK, you both created this child, you are now going to present this court with a parenting plan that bolsters the other parent, and you are going to abide by it, then there would be no fighting. Fighting makes lawyers money. If mom and dad fight for 18 years, they pay retainers. The ABA is the number one special interest groups who fight shared parenting because it diminishes fighting. Judges are former lawyers, and lawyers help in elections. The amount that two parents pay in retainers for 18 yrs doubles the amount of child support arrears in this country. If Judges were concerned about children, they would do something about a system that encourages two parents HAVING to spend retainers sometimes twice a year fighting so that this money went back to kids.

      3) You cannot argue that Womens Rights groups are not well entrenched, well funded, and a super powerful lobby, and that there is NO real formitable men rights lobby. If you have one lobby telling you that you will not get re-elected unless you do A, B, and C and there is no opposition, then this is a no brainer.

      I agree that neither Judge Sabiston or Gavin are the REASON for the problems in the courts, but I also do not see them talking to Legislators about making it less divisive and there is good reason that they dont given 1-3 above.

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      Comment by ncfathers | March 18, 2012 | Reply


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