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Men Going Their Own Way, What Is Going On? No Kids And Marriage?

Men Going Their Own Way

Men refusing to get married and having kidsMen going their own way (MGTOW) is a international movement of men and women in paternal families who are are deciding to teach their sons that marriage and participating in having children is no longer acceptable given the climate against men in the family courts and marriage. Of course there are other issues that certainly have a play in the MGTOW movement, but here at NC Fathers we are just going to focus on divorce and family law. NC Fathers is an organization that advocates on behalf of ALL non-custodial families in our state including mothers, but it should be clear to everyone that men are the majority of non-custodial parents in North Carolina. This article is NOT an endorsement of MGTOW, but simply an educational article on the movement and the mission of members within the movement. As we just stated, our goal is to bring near equality to the family courts ensuring that the courts empower both parents for the greater good of children. We believe the current family court system is one built upon one parent winning, and another losing which sets the arena for 18 years of battling parents. The men going their own way movement is built around the idea that men, fathers, and women in paternal families are tired of battling legislators and others to bring about divorce and family law reform, and are deciding to starve the beast that drives the divorce and family courts industry by ending marriage and the birthrate – and boy has this idea taken off.

Why men are starting to go their own way.

Just this week, a well known University here in the United States that focuses on family policy revealed that the marriage rate has plummeted to an all-time historic low of just one in three women being married. Additionally, the birth rate has plummeted and the rate of children being born to unmarried parents is at 47%. Now, there are a lot of issues that are probably coming together to create this perfect storm, but the MGTOW movement certainly wants to help be a part of the destruction of marriage and children being born, not because they do not believe in marriage or children, they are just tired of being pushed to the outer margins of their kids lives after divorce and losing significantly in divorce.

Many members of the movement are trying to save future generations of men from walking blindly into this arena and getting hurt, but even more astonishing is the number of WOMEN who have sons that are about to become of age to get married and have children who are screaming the loudest. We talked to several women prior to writing this article and they tell us they have had serious conversations with their sons about having a vasectomy and what likely awaits them in the family and divorce courts should they decide to take on that responsibility.

In short, MGTOW advocates for the complete opposite that we are advocating for. We advocate for a more equal family court system and an end to the organizations and policies that make divorce attractive for women at the peril of men and fathers. MGTOW advocates for men never becoming fathers in the first place and never getting married.

Men Going Their Own Way And Starving The Beast

If you follow the shared parenting and fathers rights movement, you know that there are many industries that benefit from two parents divorcing, and fighting an 18 year battle. Here is how the MGTOW movement will impact these industries as we see it.

Most of the issues we touch on briefly below are explained in detail here.

  • Family and divorce lawyers – If men started to go their own way and never get married or had children, then there would either be a lot of starving lawyers or they would have to find new ways to make money. But what is clear is that lawyers and their associations gain financially BIG TIME when parents fight custody battles for 18 years.
  • State governments – If men went their own way and stopped getting married and having children, state governments who rely on federal Title IV-D money gained from collection of child support would collapse in the area of social services programs.
  • Domestic Violence – Under the MGTOW movement, domestic violence which has literally become an industry in itself that relies on increasing violence statistics would crumble and the current philosophy that ONLY men commit violence would have be be re-framed so that the industry could continue to write books, build non-profits and university programs, and political agendas. There are a LOT of women in the domestic violence industry who are just fine with men being socially stigmatized as the only domestic offenders and who are responsible for all violence so they can work and profit from the industry.
  • Radical Feminism – Radical feminism (and even some not so radical) teaches us that men are responsible for everything wrong with the world and women. That women are always victims of men. For the academic and radical feminist who hold these beliefs, we do not think that they ever want to see equality because they need women in a perpetual state of victimhood at the hands of men. Under MGTOW, men and women interacting together would be lessened and feminism would have to find a new scapegoat.
  • Adoption industry – With 47% of children born in the U.S. coming from a mother who is not married to the biological father, another man, or has no idea who the child’s father is, and the fact that all U.S. states have laws not acknowledging putative biological fathers, a massive adoption industry has evolved. Men are rarely given the chance to be fathers in these cases.

Of course, we welcome users to leave comments below and as we discover more about the movement and glean new data from the concepts, we will add more bulleted points to this section.

MGTOW Discussions

Are you a man or father who has essentially gone your own way, one who is divorced and plans to never get married again under any circumstances? Do you find that you are happier and more content in life not having to worry about divorce and never seeing your children again? That you never have to worry about a marital spat where 911 is called and you are taken to jail because of mandatory arrest even when no actual violence took place?

Are you a mother who is concerned about her son becoming a man and father and have either taken the time to teach him about the real world, what happens to men in divorce, and what happens to men in the family courts? Have you encouraged your son to get a vasectomy?

Are you a man who has experienced the family courts? Have you sat your son down and told him what he can likely suspect in the family courts should he decide to get married? Is MGTOW all about older men teaching younger men about the family courts, the divorce industry, and radical feminist who literally want to see men disabled in society?

Given that society teaches us that generally a healthy life revolves around people being social and involved in relationships, how do you deal with going your own way and not buying into societal pressures to get married and have children?

If ALL men decided NOT to get married or have children, do you think state governments would stop their incentives for divorce?

Do you think that women would demand that equality be brought into divorce and the courts in an attempt to draw men back into marriage and helping to create children?

Are you a woman who is angry at radical feminism for bringing men and fathers to the point of going their own way because you are one that wants a marriage/child and who has no desire to take advantage of biased laws to hurt your child’s father using the courts you know stand ready to give you anything you want?

Using the comment system below, tell us some areas that we did not cover in the MGTOW movement and be sure to share this article on Facebook, Twitter, Google+, and other social networks so that others can give us their view on men going their own way.

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November 21, 2013 - Posted by | Uncategorized

10 Comments »

  1. I’m not a part of the MGTOW movement per say, but I have gone my own way nevertheless. I’ve seen way too many lives (both parents and children) obliterated by marriage and divorce. It’s sad, but marriage will go extinct. Marriage has declined drastically since feminism came to the fore. I don’t know why any man would get married or have kids today. There are zero incentives in doing so when you consider what divorce does to people. I have a great career, make great money, have my own home and lots in savings. There’s no way I’m going to risk my sanity and peace of mind by getting married or having kids. I won’t cohabit or date people with kids either. Sooner or later, a new law will come that will make all couples cohabiting longer than a certain period of time legally married, which is why I won’t do that. In addition, just acting in a fatherly way for a period of time to a child of a single person will someday mean that you’re on the hook for child support, which is why I don’t go anywhere near women with children. Our government won’t tolerate singles living together for too long and will enact laws that enable de facto marriage after X number of years of cohabitation. Other countries are already doing this.

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    Comment by TooCoolToFool | November 22, 2013 | Reply

  2. What is interesting about MGTOW is that it to a large degree involves men staying completely away from women. Feminism, and to an extent many non-feminist women, blames everything wrong on the planet at the feet of men. So you would think that feminist would love this movement.

    Actually, they don’t. There are very much shaming men for this, calling them selfish? Why?

    Because they actually want men getting married and having children so that women can get all marital property and have government assistance should she need it. They want you to get married, then hope for a divorce, upon which you can easily be disposed of.

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    Comment by Melvin | November 22, 2013 | Reply

  3. While family court and divorce is certainly a big part of this movement, you can best be sure that there are many others why thing movement has come about.

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    Comment by Craig | November 22, 2013 | Reply

  4. Actually, there are a lot of women who are going their own way as well. 47% of children born today are to mothers who have no idea who the father is. The only difference is she most certainly wants the father to be found so that she can have someone to give her money.

    Women who have college degrees are fighting alimony because they don’t want to pay less than earners after divorce. Women too are marrying less. But they always want a baby. Men are completely disposable.

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    Comment by Kendrick | November 22, 2013 | Reply

  5. I am the mother of a 17 year old and I MOST CERTAINLY have educated my son on what he will face upon divorce and MOST CERTAINLY if he has a child and is divorced. I agree with most of MGTOW, but not encouraging a vasectomy.

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    Comment by Tina | November 22, 2013 | Reply

  6. Any men who gets married or has kids these days are fools! And yes I believe it is up to us as men to teach other young men the dangers of what they face.

    I think it is particularly discussing that most young men were raised by mothers who disposed of their kid’s father via the family courts and help to solidify the same for her son.

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    Comment by Mark in Austin TX | November 22, 2013 | Reply

  7. I like marriage, and I love my children. Marriage can be a very awesome thing when it is good. However, there are too many ideology groups like feminist and other agencies who love divorce and ensuing child custody battles to make it more profitable (or comfortable) for women to leave their husbands and purposefully alienate the children from the father.

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    Comment by Kevin T (mgtow) | November 22, 2013 | Reply

  8. I am a man involved in men going their own way. I have not dated in 7 years, have had a vasectomy, and most certainly will never marry again. I live with a unmistakable peace in knowing that my home will never be taken from a judge and given to a woman. I live at peace knowing that if me and a wife get into a verbal argument 911 won’t be called and me arrested just because.

    I do not have to deal with the pain of having children taken from me, never to see them again because a judge allowed the mother to move 8 states away.

    I am VERY much at peace.

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    Comment by James Hedrick | November 22, 2013 | Reply

  9. Marriage is a foundation of civilized life. No advanced civilization has ever existed without the married, two-parent family. Those who argue that our civilization needs healthy marriages to survive are not exaggerating.
    And yet I cannot, in good conscience, urge young men to marry today. For many men (and some women), marriage has become nothing less than a one-way ticket to jail…

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Baskerville/stephen9.htm

    Have Anti-Father Family Court Policies Led to a Men’s Marriage Strike?…

    http://www.glennsacks.com/have_antifather_family.htm

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    Comment by Navin R. Johnson | December 15, 2013 | Reply

  10. One of the best MGTOW videos out there….

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    Comment by Navin R. Johnson | December 31, 2013 | Reply


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