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NC Child Support and Enforcement

NC Child Support EnforcementRegarding NC Child Support Enforcement let us be VERY Clear, we believe that both parents should support their children.

Officially, in NC there is no presumption as to who gets custody of a child when parents divorce. Federal statistics show that mothers get custody 85% of the time in North Carolina. Our contention is that when you have a figure like 85% it certainly sounds like presumption.

But is it really presumption and favor?

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Roughly half of custodial mothers today have male children who will one day be pushed to the margins of their kids lives if they experience a divorce and have children. Where do you think these non-custodial grandmothers (who will also be marginalized as well) will stand then? With Equally Shared Parenting?

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The NC Child Support Enforcement Agencies NEEDS Fathers to be Deadbeat

NC Child Support has become an industry where agencies need federal funding to build new offices, hire employees, advertising, supplies, services, programs, etc… and we feel it is this need for money that builds a need for NC Fathers to be non-active in their kids lives. NC Fathers belief is that men are not active by choice, but because of the NC Family Courts, Social Services agencies, Legislators, and other Special Interest groups that make it impossible to get fairness in the system and they have given up. These groups of people ALL benefit from the federal and state funding for NC Child Support initiatives and NC Child Support Enforcement. It is because of THIS, that Fathers in NC and Females in paternal families are ostracized and alienated from their minor children.

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NC Fathers believes that ALL NC Child Support Enforcement proponents will tell you that child support in NC is SIMPLY about providing financial assistance to NC children who are in broken families.

What these proponents DO NOT tell you is that NC Child Support Enforcement is ALSO generating revenue for the State of NC Social Services agencies who need funding for low income assistance programs. Please read Section 458 of the Social Security Act Title IV Part D entitled “Incentive Payments to States”. Contained in this legislation is a INCENTIVE to US States to collect TWO Dollars from the federal government for every ONE Dollar collected in child support. This is a revenue generation of ONE Dollar that can then be used to replenish social services low income assistance programs. More on this HERE.

Even more disturbing is the fact that MANY government contractors who want to work for NC Child Support Enforcement can get Title IV-D funding for their programs. Later in this article, we will introduce you to a software company that wants Title IV-D money to implement their software into enforcement’s database.

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NC Fathers question is, why are MILLIONS of NC non-custodial fathers, paternal grandmothers, step-mothers, and paternal aunts and uncles generating money for social services and putting food on the plates of government contractors because they are not being ALLOWED to equal parent or have access to their children (and thus paying child support) ?

NEVER let anyone tell you that the NC Child Support Enforcement system is ONLY “for the kids”. There is a lot of big government money, special interests, and politics behind the scenes that is preventing equal shared parenting for 4.5 million non-custodial family members who these groups NEED to stay non-custodial so that funding can flow.

We think that many judges simply believe that mothers should care for children and that fathers should work to pay for their children and that sense a mother carried a child for 9 months that it would be barbaric to give custody of a child to a father. No doubt there is favoritism. But let us not forget that women do not get to even experience the amazing magic of birth without biology from a man. When women master immaculate conception then we can talk favoritism.

But we believe a greater component(s) is involved when it comes to NC Child Support:

  • Money
  • Power
  • Votes

To make our point we will focus on three federal legislative pieces: 1) Social Security Act Title IV-D 2) Sec.458. 42 U.S.C. 658a and 3) Child Support Enforcement Act (SB361).

In addition, to prove our point that money and industry is driving the NC Child Support Enforcement System, here is just ONE of the government contractors trying to get Title IV-D money to build a software system for enforcement: https://www.policy-studies.com/solutions/by-program-type/child-support-enforcement/

Any idea how much it will cost to build this new system? We don’t either, but certainly it will be a multimillion dollar endeavor. All this money spent on enforcement of one parent; is it a wonder why NC kids have such a hard time with anxiety? If Child Support Enforcement would divert this money into a program that tried to get BOTH parents working together for the betterment of their children then we are talking real change.

Now if you go through each one of these Child Support and Enforcement legislative parts you will see a whole lot of information related to “payments to states”, taxes on unpaid child support, public assistance, and Medicaid. Simply put, we believe that tens of thousands of NC fathers are not seeing their children equally or getting custody so that child support amounts and collections are greater; for which they can get millions in federal dollars “Incentive Payments to States”” and taxes. Child Support Payments through Enforcement also go to help replenish Medicaid and public assistance programs.

Again, if you ever wondered why you as a NC father, or you as a NC Paternal Grandmother, or you as a Paternal Family Member of a child do not get to see your kids as much as mothers and her extended family, we believe the data above is why.

And quite frankly we think it is sick that politicians and federal/state governments are making money off alienating fathers and children.

So we have covered MONEY, what about POWER and VOTES?

In NC, as well as all other US States, there are very well motivated, entrenched, and powerful feminist and domestic violence groups who spend countless hours and money to make sure that NC politicians maintain the divisive nature of the courts so that mothers who decide to divorce men will have federal mandated public assistance programs, tax credits, housing assistance, and child support to make it.

This is the POWER and VOTES component of NC Child Support and Enforcement. Politicians are scared to death of these groups who maintain their power and they receive votes from. And, until there is a significant organization of men that include paternal female family members this will not change.

So the writing is on the wall. NC is making money off child support and uses child support enforcement as the conduit to get federal assistance so they can replenish Medicaid and other assistance programs. And, there are womens groups lined up to make sure this power play stays unchanged in the name of womens rights.

Why won’t NC Judges and Legislators allow us to pay child support to institutions that DIRECTLY affect our children instead of to a woman? Because the women lobby groups want child support to help children and WOMEN

Until fathers organize, and until women of paternity send very aggressive messages to NC politicians, fathers will continue to lose in the custody courts and will receive little visitation so that maximum child support can be collected. What is also important to remember is that non-custodial families represent a huge swing vote in NC. When you add up all non-custodial fathers, plus just ONE member of the paternal family, that is a lot of votes. Most people in non-custodial families believe they have no control over what is happening in the NC Courts or with child support enforcement issues and they do. The moment that non-custodial families start affecting legislators and judges with their votes, you can be sure that NC Child Support Enforcement officials will change the system so that it is not so burdensome and aggressive.

We believe that children in NC receive more support, opportunities, and resources when they have both extended families active in their life than any child support figure will ever accomplish.

It is time to stop the revenue generation from child support enforcement and bring both equal parents to the table. It is not in a child’s best interest to have his/her father (and extended family) under enforcement so that a monthly check can be obtained . It is in a child’s best interest to put the federal government and their big government programs out of kids lives and put BOTH parents in.

What will you do starting tomorrow to abolish NC Child Support Enforcement and the revenue generation that takes place on the backs of your relationship with your minor children?

NC Child Support Enforcement is More About Revenue Generation for the State of NC and Control by Womens Rights Groups Than a Child’s Best Interest

We realize this is a very strong statement

However, keep this in mind. Remember that the amount of NC child support payed is directly related to how much the parents income is. Let us use the example of two parents who make $30,000 a year. The non-custodial father in this case depending on how many overnights he has pays $700 a month in child support. This figure does NOT take into account medical insurance, medications, or counseling expenses since these expenses are added on to child support. Now what happens if the non-custodial father gets a better education and he more than doubles his income. No doubt the NC Child Support Enforcement agency will be quick to more than double his child support obligation. Keep in mind that neither rent, the cost of food, the cost of clothes, the cost of electricity, the cost of daycare, etc… goes up because of prosperity.  So with the non-custodial fathers new prosperity, he now pays $1600 a month in child support even though there are NO NEW expenses or cost of expenses. Now sure, many will argue that the father’s new obligation will provide for a better life for his child. But that is assuming that the custodial mother uses the extra income for the child.

By law, the mother does NOT have to account for where the child support she receives goes. She can use this new income to buy a new house, car, boat, clothes, or whatever.

We will ask this of any divorced person, do you want to fund your ex spouse even after a divorce and provide for him/her to have a new car or home? Of course not, but under current NC enforcement guidelines, non-custodial fathers are forced to do this each and every day.

So why is the federal government giving this power to custodial mothers? Remember earlier in our article we pointed out that for EVERY dollar received from enforcement the State of NC gets back free money to pay for Title IV programs? This is the reason there is no cap on child support obligations. Your new prosperity helps the State of NC pay for Medicaid (Title IV program) and it’s being done on the “for the children” doctrine that makes you feel like you are helping your children.

Additionally, make no bones about it, the framers of the current federal child support enforcement guidelines had MAJOR women rights groups standing over their shoulders making sure women came on on the better end of this multi-billion dollar federal agency.

See our article on NC Domestic Violence to see how this equally well funded federal initiative helps to control the amount of child support obligation you pay.

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How can non-custodial fathers win the war against the US federal government and major lobby organizations that control child support enforcement? While this may seem like a very hard thing to do, one needs to keep in mind that given the divorce rate in NC, non-custodial fathers make up a VERY significant population in NC. When you add in one or two paternal family members, you are THE largest swing vote and majority in elections. The minute that non-custodial fathers and family members end politicians and judges careers on this issue, there will be a sudden shift in how enforcement does business.

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  1. This is UNBELIEVABLE, all politicians and judges tell us this nc child support enforcement is only about the kids best interest and here is evidence that the program is a back handed welfare funding program. JUST GREAT!

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    Comment by Todd G | January 4, 2012 | Reply

    • Todd, quoting this GOVERNMENT website: http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/cs-tanf-int03/report.htm#I

      “Child support provides an important source of income for many low-income families. Because state welfare reform policies have placed a stronger emphasis on work and adopted time limits on welfare receipt, increasing child support for families while they are on welfare and after they leave becomes even more critical for family self-sufficiency.

      Welfare and child support programs have long been intertwined. The child support enforcement program (CSE), Title IV-D of the Social Security Act, was established in 1975 primarily as a method of reducing public expenditures on welfare. If the family is on welfare, child support obtained from non-custodial parents by the CSE agency is used to reimburse the government for benefits paid to these families (i.e., cost recovery).(1) Reforms in the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act (PRWORA) and other policy changes have shifted the child support enforcement program toward a more family-centered mission.

      Notice the bolded text above, welfare and child support have long been intertwined

      Our assertion is that because NC Child Support Enforcement is a program helping Welfare recipients, the State of NC is addicted to this program and it’s need to replenish funds for this purpose. Given this child support enforcement initiative, we believe this is WHY non-custodial families receive little visitation or equal custody of their children.

      NC Child Support Enforcement NEEDS non-custodial families to STAY non-custodial for money.

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      Comment by ncfathers | January 4, 2012 | Reply

  2. How come fathers are paying child support and paying the welfare assistance back? How are we paying both and how do you let discrepancies like this get back. I live in Elizabeth City also and this agency has been ripping women off for awhile and the NC CHILD support system WHY DO THEY TAKE MONEY AT CHRISTMAS TIME FOR A SO CALLED PROCESSING FEE WHEN IT STATES THAT ALL CSE AGENCIES PROVIDE THIS SERVICE FOR FREE? I THOUGHT I WAS PAYING CHILD SUPPORT TO MY CHILD AND SUPPORTING MY CHILDREN. MONEY FROM ALL THE RECEIPIENTS FOR A PROCESSING FEE? WHERE IS IT GOING? MOTHERS AND FATHERS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE IT IS GOING ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE TAKING MONEY FROM A RECIEPENT WHO ALREADY HAS A PARENT IN THE ARREARS FOR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. SO is THIS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD. WHERE ARE THE COST OF LIVING INCREASES. I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD READ THE NC GENERAL STATUES OF CHILD SUPPORT AND EDUCATE YOURSELF. YOUR CASEWORKER IN PASQUOTANK COUNTY WORKS WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO WORK for the STATE, or WORK IN LAW ENFORCEMENT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO worry about. THEY PROTECT THEIR own. ALSO BE A FRIEND OF A FRIEND AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. ITS NOTHING THAT IS CORRECT IN THIS AGENCY> I agree with the lady above and I am a MAN.

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    Comment by Tyrone SANDERS | September 3, 2012 | Reply

    • Tyrone, according to the Social Security Act, Title IV, Part D, Section 458, for every dollar collected by child support enforcement, we (the federal government) will give you what you collect back to be used for social services funding. If you pay $400 in child support, you trigger $400 in federal funds for the State of NC.

      As yes, the processing fee child support enforcement makes custodial parents pay is outrageous. If 1 million NC custodial mothers pay $30 per month, that is 30 million dollars. But there are more than 1 million custodial parents in NC isn’t there?

      Its an industry Tyrone. The State gets money for Welfare, the Attorneys get retainers every few months, the mediators get payed, and various special interest groups that look out for women and child get fed.

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      Comment by ncfathers | September 8, 2012 | Reply

  3. I don’t get it, my ex husband pays more money out to our children when he has them 3 days a week than he ever payed in child support, what is the big fuss about?

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    Comment by Cheryl M | September 22, 2012 | Reply

    • Cheryl, EXACTLY! Fathers who have their kids equal time pay LOTS more money in supporting their children than NC Child Support Enforcement guidelines. But the point here is not taking care of kids, it’s about triggering massive federal funding that keeps Welfare afloat.

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      Comment by stompkinsnc | September 22, 2012 | Reply

  4. Child Support Enforcement in NC should be more concerned about fathers who do not pay support or want to see their kids. I am a sister who’s brother wants equal access to his son and is denied over and over by judges. child support enforcement should stay out of the lives of fathers who do want to be with their kids.

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    Comment by Crystal J | October 2, 2012 | Reply

  5. I am a parent of two and I am suppose to receive child support every month. I only get it maybe twice a year when the warrant goes out. Everyones situation is different. My children’s father works under the table on purpose so that his support won’t increase and then only makes payments when he is forced to stay out of jail. He never sees my kids even though we have invited him to every birthday party up until my oldest was four and not once did he show up so now we don’t invite him at all. And the few times he did show up he was messed up on something. I work 40 hrs a week and bust my tail to support my kids on my own. I believe it should be 50/50. I pay for a roof over their head, put food on the table, cloth them, pay for all of their sports, childcare and everything else on my own. All he has to do is make a payment….which is the easy part and he can’t even do that. Anyone can make a payment, but it takes a real man to be a father. You have no idea how hard it is to raise a child on your own. Even though I get support I can’t count on it because i never know if its coming or not. Single moms should not be blamed for having all the power, not every situation is the same. And what kinda of mom would I be if I let my kid go off with some stranger, because that is what he is, he hasn’t seen my kids in six years. Then he wants to cry to everyone and wants everyone to feel sorry for him. Nobody felt sorry for me when I was forced to do it on my own. I didn’t get no hand me outs so why should he? If any parent wants to see their child bad enough they will, you can make up all the excuses in the world at the end of the day there are ways. Some dads just cry because they have to pay and then tell everyone the mom wont let them see the kid when really they just don’t show up or pay their child support. And he is over $4,000.00 behind right now still walking around free. I don’t see child support doing very much enforcing and I have to call once a month and complain to get them motivated. I’d like to know how the system is against single moms when i cant even get my child support????

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    Comment by pam | October 28, 2012 | Reply

    • Pam, in your case we advocate for the NC child support enforcement system and aggressive enforcement. The problem here is that Fathers who are NOT like your ex, and who want 50/50 with their children, are not allowed by the courts and put into enforcement.

      You stated “Anyone can make a payment, but it takes a real man to be a father” and that is not true. Obviously, you didn’t go through a custody battle. There are Fathers who want to be a Father and who are marginalized as visitors 4 days a month, and it happens 85% of the time.

      You stated “Single moms should not be blamed for having all the power, not every situation is the same” and nobody is blaming single moms, we are blaming the Judges and Politicians that give you all the power.

      You stated “If any parent wants to see their child bad enough they will, you can make up all the excuses in the world at the end of the day there are ways” and this true is false. There are many cases where a Father asks the kids to see his children and the courts and moms say no.

      You stated “And he is over $4,000.00 behind right now still walking around free”, we have a custodial father in our organization who is owed $8000 in child support arrears and enforcement won’t even pursue her.

      And you are right, NC Child Support Enforcement does not care about you, they only care about the even match of federal funds that they get when they collect child support.

      You seem to be approaching this as only Fathers are bad. There are non-custodial mothers who don’t pay child support and who hurt and kill their kids too.

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      Comment by stompkinsnc | October 28, 2012 | Reply

  6. My husband is a Specialist in the US ARMY and the state of NC is not only bankrupting us but is also a helping hand in getting my husband kicked out of the Army due to financial hardship. We do not have an issue with supporting his children. We do however have an issue paying such a large amount to a woman and her husband that own a business (that is doing rather well), collecting welfare and a large amount of child support. I have tried to get government assistance to help with childcare and food but we do not qualify. You see they tell us that we are just over the qualifying amount, even though once child support is deducted we fall well below. I am unable to work due lack of funds, childcare for my twin sons will cost us between $800 and $1200 a month. But, when you can’t even afford to pay the bill until you get your first check, it kind of puts you in a bind.

    We are stationed in OK and have tried to find a lawyer that will help us. We have had no luck and therefore, my husband has to plead his case over the phone and beg for mercy from the judge. We have had no luck so far.

    What the sad part of the situation is that my husband’s ex and her husband are living it up. They have four wheelers, 5 computers, Iphones and taking vacations every year, while we are trying to feed our children between paychecks.

    By the way, if you know any pro-bono attorneys feel free to let me know about them. We really could use some help.

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    Comment by Kimberley Scribner | November 20, 2012 | Reply

    • Hi Kimberly,
      Is it possible that your husband’s ex married someone wealthy and is not working or actually on the business name? According to NC Child Support Enforcement (and enforcement nationally) a woman can marry Bill Gates and his income would not be calculated in child support, just her “no income”. As for how they are collecting Welfare, I couldn’t even begin to guess. Attorneys only accept pro-bono cases on criminal charges, not in civil matters which is where Child Support Enforcement issues are heard.

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      Comment by stompkinsnc | November 20, 2012 | Reply

  7. I am a non-custodial father living in Raleigh whose son resides with his mother in Wayne county. A few years ago my ex took me to court after an argument concerning her lackadaisical rearing of our son which led to him developing behavioral issues. Her case was motivated purely by a need to act punitively against me. However, did the judge care? Nope. She went ahead and quintupled my support obligation. In fact, it’s so high now that I and my wife can barely afford to go to work each day.

    To add insult to injury, the IV-D attorney was allowed, by the judge, to slander me; calling me a “spoiled deadbeat” in open court, despite the fact that my child support has been caught up in full for years. The judge then told my wife, who had just graduated college and was looking for a job, that she “needed to try a little harder”. The judge never once cared that I was already burdened with trying to care for an ailing father, or that such a punitive support order would limit my ability to afford gas to go see my son.

    I’d like to add that for eight years of my son’s life, from 2 years old to just after his tenth birthday, my ex never allowed me to so much as speak to him. She and her parents changed their phone numbers frequently to insure this until his behavior began to get him in trouble with the juvenile justice authorities. it was only after this turn of events that I was allowed contact with him; essentially to “straighten him out”.

    Straighten him out I did too. In about a year and half he went from a poorly(at best) behaved child with a straight D & F report card to being well-behaved and earning B’s, C’s, and an occasional A in school. He continues this despite his mother’s attempts at stopping my influence because on the day the judge rendered her verdict, I called and told him what had happened and explained the impact this was going to have, told him not to give up on his schooling, etc. He’s made me proud. I just hope that we can all find a way, together, to fix this broken system that makes an enemy and a piggy bank out of fathers who truly love their children and want to raise them to be good and productive members of society.

    Count me in.

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    Comment by Mr. Blank | November 29, 2012 | Reply

  8. I have an issue my self. I have recently relocated to North Carolina completely abandoning my life in California. I have a 7 y/o son here, the reason I moved. I was lucky enough to have my fiancée come with. We are now dealing with the possibility of me going to jail because I can’t afford the child support order in place. About 8 years ago, I came to NC for my sisters wedding. I was briefly with a girl. She said she was pregnant. I said ok. She then told me the child was not mine. I said ok, and went back to California. I received a child support order 2 years later. I got the DNA test and now have a son. While I will admit to not always paying child support, I will also state I haven’t always had consistent work. As I will say I haven’t been the best dad ever, I will say I am trying my ass off. I unfortunately can not afford the order of 400 + on 8 an hr. I love my son and have reconstructed my life for him. I only get to see him when its convenient for her when she has to work her under the table job so that she can get all the benefits the government. will give her for being poor. She owns her house and I am renting a makeshift room at my sisters house. I NEED HELP AND DON’T KNOW HOW TO GET IT. I received an electronic tracking device with the threat of jail if I don’t comply with the mothers wishes. I am now expecting a child with my fiancée and would love to get through school and actually make something of myself for my what will be 2 children and eventual wife but the baby’s mother is making it impossible. How do I handle this??????

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    Comment by james | June 7, 2013 | Reply

  9. North Caroline Child Support Enforcement in Jackson County illegally served my husband for court by sending it standard mail to an address where we do not live, when their manual state they are to serve you through the sheriff’s department or certified mail. Because he did know he didn’t appear in court. So now they have taken his license and frozen the registration on a truck that is also in my name. When he tried to work with Child Support Enforcement to get this matter fixed they didn’t care that they did it illegally and said oh well the judge signed off on it. Because of this my husband lost a job that could have paid the child support. These people are now refusing to return my husband’s calls and I’ve contacted everyone in the state I can think of to have this matter fixed and have the case worker sited for what she did.

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    Comment by laauton | October 4, 2013 | Reply


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